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Joshua Doležal's avatar

Thanks for extending the conversation, Dan.

This is exactly right: "If the university's leaders (and even much of its faculty) can't get excited about learning, then learning won't be exciting. Students excited about learning won't come. Students who do come will have it drilled into them that learning is some sort of tedious but necessary chore whose goal is to prepare them for a tedious but necessary job. The university is creating the world it's complaining about."

Part of my point is that national averages do not take into account the nuances of rural places, which are all unique. Montana and Alaska offer more of a subsistence lifestyle than some other rural places, and so median income is just one measure of quality of life in those areas. I grew up below the poverty line but never went hungry, for instance, and never worked for minimum wage.

Much of this goes to the question of affordability. The reason administrators are locking themselves into prescribed vocational paths is because college presents an enormous financial risk. There's no room to explore, to discover yourself, to change your mind if you're looking at decades of debt. You need to know the outcome to invest at that scale.

But I'll also say that I see boom/bust cycles in industry that make the predetermined path less practical than it seems. Lifelong learning and a well-rounded liberal arts foundation still have the most value. But I understand why that seems like an unacceptable gamble for many.

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Martha Nichols's avatar

Dan, I really like your closing point about motivation - and how de-motivated students become when a college curriculum focuses on courses to help get a job. It’s very short-sighted, and has traditionally been the argument for why a liberal arts education can inspire passion as well as job skills. But standard four-year programs have become a financial burden - so I suspect the answer involves non-traditional programs that are flexible, affordable, and allow for open enrollment.

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